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by Sisterlisa

We know that God is always on his throne.

King Jehoshaphat humbled himself before God and God smote three armies for him.
Job lost all his children, land, etc. But God stayed with Him.
Hebrews came into slavery in Egypt, but sent a deliverer.
Queen Esther was used by God to save their race.

God opened the jail doors when Paul and Silar praised Him.
Disciples saw Jesus ascend into heaven.
Apostles were martyred for His name's sake.

There is no guarantee for happy endings until all the tears are wiped away after judgment. There is no way to know that you'll see a victory in any given situation, but God is still God. He is still on his throne.

Feel free to answer one or more of the following:

1. How do you walk in Christ with boldness (as we ought to speak) yet not become prideful?

2. How do you walk in faith and not count your chickens before they hatch?



Sisterlisa is a homeschooling mom of four children and married to a ministry leader of a Rescue mission. She is the owner of Growing in Grace Magazine and AGMinistries.


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{ Nathan } at: November 4, 2009 at 1:04 AM said...

Hi Sisterlisa;
Our Lord Jesus made us to be in full relationship with Him, that is, not only making our requests known to Him, but listening to Him and obeying Him. His work on the cross and the resurrection, restored us to that full relationship, if we will receive it.
I believe that is why Peter, Paul and all of the Apostles except John (according to tradition, John lived to a ripe old age) gladly laid down their lives. They knew, as Jesus had known, that martyrdom was in the plan, because God told them so. That’s how close their everyday relationship with the Lord was, and how conformed to the image of Jesus they were.
Really, that is the point, if we walk with Him, if we become a little more like Jesus everyday, and if we will be quiet and listen to Him, then we should find these things you mentioned to be much easier (especially humility). Then we will learn that it is not about us, it is all about Him.

Nathan

{ Sisterlisa } at: November 4, 2009 at 2:37 PM said...

I agree that it's not about us and it's all about Him. I also agree that as we walk in Christ each day and draw closer to Him, that we are 'free' in Christ. Yet in the middle of storms it's difficult for many people to find that place of balance between the two questions I asked.

One verse that comes to my mind is "..blessed are they who suffer persecution for my name's sake.." it doesn't say blessed are they who follow the Old Covenant 100%. If that were the case we would not have needed our Savior.

We are told that we will be hated by all nations for his name's sake. The world in general doesn't hate Christians who live in sin. They also seem to simply ignore those who walk according to the law and seek to condemn them for their sin. It's when I see Christians who are truly walking in love, being peaceable, that they are hated. But not so much hated by the world, but rather hated by other Christians. It's like reading the persecution of Jesus and his disciples by the Pharisees.

{ Nathan } at: November 5, 2009 at 9:46 AM said...

Good Point Sisterlisa;
I guess I was a little obscure, when I mentioned obedience I didn’t mean the O.T. law, I meant obedience to His voice as you hear it each day, as you walk with Him.
Sure we all have a bit of pharisee in us, which we will be discarding (putting it to death with the old man), but there is a dimension of life in Him which many folks don’t go deep enough to experience. I am not claiming anything special, this is open to anyone who will humbly seek Him.
He is right here with us, we only have to turn aside from the jangly distractions of the world, give up our cares and worries to Him, and sit with Him and listen.
I am making the distinction about listening, because much of christian culture revolves around old forms which seem to be a one sided conversation, that is the believer chats away in prayer and walks away from their prayer time never imagining that God would tell them anything. If God is alive and real, He can communicate with us. And we should put away whatever impediments we have to hearing Him, so that we can be guided and re-assured by Him.
I think it is odd and somewhat telling that many Christians will believe that the enemy speaks to their minds and tries to influence them, but the same people don’t think that God can speak to them. We must break through this wall of indifference, give over our silly plans, and allow Him to guide us. In this tough time in human history, we need to hear Him.

Nathan

{ Sisterlisa } at: November 6, 2009 at 6:41 AM said...

This really is so true too, "He is right here with us, we only have to turn aside from the jangly distractions of the world, give up our cares and worries to Him, and sit with Him and listen." I spent a lot of time in worship, crying with my face to the ground. Lifting my hands in worship as I sang to Him and that is the only peaceful place sometimes. I woke several times in the night praying for positive results of a situation we are witnessing. I am awake now and trust that God is sovereign and He will allow what He has filtered. Even when the storms seem to be a "category 5" He is still God and is still on His throne and I will still love Him no matter what.

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